DSG Audi A3

[Lecha32]

Audi 3 2009 год DSG 7 ступка. Бредовая ситуация: в мехатронике нет давления, обороты мотора норма. Снимаю мехатрон, запускаю на столе, насос включился давление норма. Ставлю на машину один раз может включиться нормально (закачать давление) потом такое ощущение что мотор насоса стартует в обратную сторону и стравливает давление. Ошибка только по давлению. Первый раз такой бред.

[dimstr1]

Проверь преды на мехатроник. SB2-30A, SB5-15A. может с ними беда. А вообще замена мехатроника.

[dimstr1]

Тогда замена мехатроника.

[dimstr1]

Обратись к официалам, должны помочь финансово выгодно заменить

[Lecha32]

Официалы клиенту отказали. Причину не знаю. Отремонтировал их много но с этим в тупике.

[Lecha32]

Еще вопрос, как можно установить БУ мехатрон?

[dimstr1]

На конкретный тип КПП идет конкретный мехатроник, разница в расширении номера(4 знака после основного номера). Хотя ставили для тестов и с другими номерами, правда не надолго, до недели. В идеале искать со своим номером.

[Lecha32]

А на разность пробегов не ругается?

[dimstr1]

Нет. Пробег не активный

[Lecha32]

Буду другой пробовать. Появилась ошибка по насосу "защита от игры"

[Paris]

You have to replace the whole mechatronics. The message that has appeared means that it has gone to safe mode, because there is too much pressure to move the valves of the gear levers and the valves of the double-clutch levers. There is a new generation of mechatronics which have optimized the specific problem.

[alexkp199]

Можно взять любой б/у мехатрон но 0АМ и зашить его под конкретную A3.

[Lecha32]

Жду мехатрон. Отпишусь.

[spartus]

Цитата:

Сообщение от alexkp199 Можно взять любой б/у мехатрон но 0АМ и зашить его под конкретную A3.

Привет, подскажите чем шьёте и где найти прошивки?

[alexkp199]

Шьем самописным софтом. Прошивки наскребли по ходу пьесы.

[bat_svilen]

Technical product information Transaction No.: 2022982/3
A3 with S-Tronic (0AM) - gear indicator flashes Release date: 07-Sep-2010

Customer statement / workshop findings

Customer complaint:

The gear display in the dash insert flashes


The following entry can be logged:

• P0841 02115x - sender 1 for hydraulic pressure gearbox, implausible signal

•



If other entries are logged, this TPI does not apply.

Technical background

The entry is only logged, if the hydraulic pressure in the Mechatronics drops under a certain pressure level.

Production change

Measure

Try to reproduce the customer complaint so that it can be clearly assigned to this TPI.

The following repair must only be carried out, if all the criteria (model/type, chassis number, engine/gearbox code, PR number(s), software version, code etc. ) match exactly. Otherwise this solution won't work and repeat repairs may be necessary. In such a case, we may reject the warranty claim and redebit the parts.

Update the software of the gearbox control unit with SVM 02A003. Follow this up with an adaptation drive according to the repair manual.

Warranty accounting instructions

Service number/damage code/manufacturer: 3730 / 0039


Accounting with APOS:

Repair operation:
Designation:
Time units:

27068950
Charge battery
10 TU

34350199
Check gearbox (adaptation drive)
30 TU

01500000
GFF/guided functions
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.



Accounting with APOS/2:

Illustration:
Position:
Number:
Designation:
Activity:
Time units:

STA-02
4
915105
Battery
90
10 TU

300-XX
1
300XXX
Check gearbox (adaptation drive)
02
30 TU

STA-02
1
S00032
Guided fault finding
02
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.

[bat_svilen]

Technical product information Transaction No.: 2023803/1
A3 with S-Tronic (0AM) - 30A Mechatronic fuse incorrect, entry P0562 Release date: 26-Jul-2010

Customer statement / workshop findings

Various running problems in connection with the following entries.

• P0562 / 21148 – supply voltage of motor too low

• P189C / 21247 – pressure accumulator diagnosis not possible


Technical background

Because of incorrect Mechatronics components the 30A fuse (SB-2) in the fuse holder B can blow, disrupting the power supply of the Mechatronics.

Production change

- - -

Measure

Try to reproduce the customer complaint so that it can be clearly assigned to this TPI.

The following repair must only be carried out, if all the criteria (model/type, chassis number, engine/gearbox code, PR number(s), software version, code etc. ) match exactly. Otherwise this solution won't work and repeat repairs may be necessary. In such a case, we may reject the warranty claim and redebit the parts.

1. Check the fuse SB-2 (30A.) for the Mechatronics power supply (J743) according to the current flow diagram. If the fuse is incorrect, replace it.

2. Check the system again. If the complaint is fixed, replace the Mechatronics according to the repair manual.

Warranty accounting instructions

Service number/damage code: 3511 / 0015


Accounting with APOS

Repair operation:
Designation:
Time units:

35110199
Check Mechatronics
20

35111903
Remove and install Mechatronics
250

01500000
GFF/guided functions
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.



Accounting with APOS/2

Illustration:
Position:
Number:
Designation:
Activity:
Time units:

321-62
1
325 025
Mechatronics
02
20

321-62
1
325 025
Mechatronics
55
Time from APOS2

STA-02
1
S00032
Guided fault finding
02
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.

[bat_svilen]

Technical product information Transaction No.: 2019793/1
No drive, soft shift lock function in 7th gear - DSG, A3 (0AM gearbox) Release date: 23-Jan-2009

Customer statement / workshop findings

After a gear lever change the vehicle has no propulsion and the gear display in the dash insert flashes.

There are no entries and the customer complaint cannot be reproduced.

Technical background

The soft shift lock is a safety function to prevent the vehicle from pulling away unintentionally. It is activated, if the speed is under 3 km/h and the driver holds the gear lever for 0.5 seconds in the intermediate positions P-R, R-N and N-D without operating the brake. If the soft shift lock has been activated, the gear display of the affected gear flashes in the dash insert. The soft shift lock can be released by moving the gear lever to P or N. After selecting the driving mode (R, D, S) the vehicle can be driven again.

Production change

Measure

An activation of the soft shift lock can be reproduced with measured value block (MVB) 55 for the driver registration procedure. Read MVB 55 with the tester. If the soft shift lock is activated, a value over 0 is shown on bit 4 in display value 55/3 .

Example for display value 55/3:

0x0000

0 bit 1

X filler

0 bit 2

0 bit 3

0 bit 4 = soft shift lock

0 bit 5

If the soft shift lock has been activated by the customer, explain to him the incorrect operation and its effect.

[bat_svilen]

Technical product information Transaction No.: 2024145/1
Running problems with entry P189A, P072C, P073F - A3 with S-Tronic (0AM) Release date: 16-Aug-2010

Customer statement / workshop findings

Customer statement:

Vehicle judders when pulling away. The gear changes are implausible.

For this TPI to apply the following entries must also be logged:

P072C (21066) – gear 1 not adjustable

P073F (21086) – synchronisation gear 1 failed

P189A (21186) – clutch 1, free play too small


There must not be any other entries.

Technical background

The clutch free play K1 is too small, because of premature wear adjustment.

Production change

Optimised gearbox software from week 14/2009.

Measure

Try to reproduce the customer complaint so that it can be clearly assigned to this TPI.

The following repair must only be carried out, if all the criteria (model/type, chassis number, engine/gearbox code, PR number(s), software version, code etc. ) match exactly. Otherwise this solution won't work and repeat repairs may be necessary. In such a case, we may reject the warranty claim and redebit the parts.


If the complaint is confirmed, replace the multiple clutch according to the repair manual. The gearbox production date can be checked via the measured value block 84 in the gearbox control unit or read directly on the gearbox. Illustration 1




Illustration 1

KHN – gearbox code

01.06.06 – production date 1 June 2006

14 – plant code

13:59 time

0026 – current number



On vehicles with gearbox software version 0AM.300.045.A_0605 the gearbox software must be updated with SVM 02A003 after replacing of the multiple clutch.

Warranty accounting instructions

Service number/damage code: 3838 / 0011


APOS

Repair operation:
Designation:
Time units:

343519xx
Remove and install gearbox
Time from APOS

30601953
Remove and install multiple clutch
70

30605553
Replace multiple clutch
40

01500000
GFF/guided functions
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.



APOS/2

Illustration:
Position:
Number:
Designation:
Activity:
Time units:

300-54
1
300 045
Gearbox
19
Time from APOS2

141-22
1
141 017
Multiple clutch
55
Time from APOS2

STA-02
1
S00032
Guided fault finding
02
TU according to diagnosis protocol

The labour times are correct at the time of publication.

[bat_svilen]

J743 - Mechatronics for dual-clutch direct shift gearbox 0AM, reading measured value block

The following measured values are displayed:
Measured value block 1:
1/1 -> F - Brake light switch
1/2 -> Brake test switch
1/3 -> Brake pressure
1/4 -> Brake pressure validity
Measured value block 2:
2/1 -> Accelerator pedal
2/2 -> Accelerator pedal validity
2/3 -> Kickdown detection
2/4 -> Empty gas detection
Measured value block 3:
3/1 -> Tiptronic source
3/2 -> E438 Tiptronic Up
3/3 -> E439 Tiptronic Down
Measured value block 4:
4/1 -> E313 Selector lever position raw values over CAN from selector lever
4/2 -> E313 Selector lever position plausibility-checked
4/3 -> E313 Selector lever fault bits
Measured value block 5:
5/1 -> G641 Gearbox input speed sender 3
5/2 -> G28 Engine speed from drive train CAN
5/3 -> G632 Gearbox input speed sender 1
5/4 -> G612 Gearbox input speed sender 2
Measured value block 6:
6/1 -> Speed output shaft 1
6/2 -> Speed output shaft 2
6/3 -> Output speed over CAN from ESP
6/4 -> Speed used for output
Measured value block 7:
7/1 -> G632 Direction shaft 1
7/2 -> G612 Direction shaft 2
7/3 -> Direction of travel
Measured value block 8:
8/1 -> Speed used for driving strategy
8/2 -> Speed on CAN data bus
Measured value block 9:
9/1 -> Actual torque
9/2 -> Calculated engine torque with cut-in
9/3 -> Calculated engine torque without cut-in by other systems
9/4 -> Engine torque validity
Measured value block 10:
10/1 -> Engine torque, limit value from engine
10/2 -> Engine torque loss
10/3 -> Gearbox torque loss
10/4 -> -
Measured value block 11:
11/1 -> G510 - Temperature sender in control unit
11/2 -> Microprocessor internal temperature
Measured value block 12:
12/1 -> Specified state for voltage supply gearbox section 1
12/2 -> Specified state for voltage supply gearbox section 2
12/3 ->Voltage supply gearbox section 1

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12/4 ->Voltage supply gearbox section 2
Measured value block 13:
13/1 -> Terminal 30 supply voltage
13/2 -> Terminal 15 supply voltage
13/4 -> V401 Terminal 30 supply voltage
Measured value block 14:
14/1 -> Coolant temperature
14/2 -> Intake air temperature
14/3 -> Ambient temperature
Measured value block 20:
20/1 -> N110 Selector lever lock solenoid
20/2 -> Shiftlock status
20/3 -> Shiftlock combi lamp
Measured value block 21:
21/1 -> Start enable
Measured value block 22:
22/1 -> Selector lever position on dash
22/2 -> Engaged gear (actual)
22/3 -> Dash display FLASH
22/4 -> Selector lever illumination
Measured value block 23:
23/1 -> Request AC compressor
23/2 -> Activation AC compressor
23/3 -> Activation radiator fan
Measured value block 24:
24/1 -> Engine speed
24/2 -> Specified idling speed increase
24/3 -> Specified idling speed input
Measured value block 25:
25/1 -> Gearbox request
25/2 -> Gearbox specified torque
Measured value block 26:
26/1 -> Clutch temperature
26/2 -> Clutch temperature
26/3 -> Clutch 1
26/4 -> Clutch 2
Measured value block 27:
27/1 -> Drive strategy 1
27/2 -> Drive strategy 2
27/3 -> Drive strategy 3
Measured value block 30:
30/1 -> V401 Pressure supply S1
30/2 -> V401 Pressure supply S2
30/3 -> V401 Pressure supply actual pressure
30/4 -> V401 Pressure supply actual pressure AD
Measured value block 31:
31/1 -> Pressure supply specified engine speed
31/2 -> Pressure supply actual engine speed
31/3 -> Pressure supply duty cycle
31/4 -> Pressure supply actual current
Measured value block 33:
33/1 -> Pressure supply 1
33/2 -> Pressure supply 2
33/3 -> Pressure supply 3
Measured value block 34:
34/1 -> Number of timeout errors

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34/2 -> Number of synchronisation errors
34/3 -> Number of current overload errors
34/4 -> Number of driver errors
Measured value block 35:
35/1 -> Protective functions
35/2 -> Protective functions
35/3 -> Protective functions
35/4 -> Protective functions
Measured value block 36:
36/1 -> Protective functions
36/2 -> Protective functions
36/3 -> Protective functions
36/4 -> Protective functions
Measured value block 37:
37/1 -> Protective functions
37/2 -> Protective functions
Measured value block 38:
38/1 -> Temperature time 0
38/2 -> Temperature time 1
38/3 -> Temperature time 2
38/4 -> Temperature time 3
Measured value block 39:
39/1 -> Temperature time 4
39/2 -> Temperature time 5
39/4 -> Temperature maximum
Measured value block 40:
40/1 -> Checksum
40/2 -> Checksum
Measured value block 41:
41/1 -> Parameter set designation
Measured value block 42:
42/1 -> Drive strategy
Measured value block 48:
48/1 -> Software designation
Measured value block 50:
50/1 -> Selector lever info
Measured value block 51:
51/1 -> CAN version
51/2 -> Gearbox coding info
51/3 -> Engine coding info
Measured value block 53:
53/1 -> Status basic setting
53/2 -> Status gear actuator
53/3 -> Status clutch
53/4 -> Status clutch travel
Measured value block 56:
56/1 -> Fault entry 1
56/2 -> Fault entry 2
56/3 -> Fault entry 3
56/4 -> Fault entry 4
Measured value block 57:
57/1 -> Fault entry 5
57/2 -> Fault entry 6
57/3 -> Fault entry 7
57/4 -> Fault entry 8
Measured value block 58:

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58/1 -> Fault entry 9
58/2 -> Fault entry 10
58/3 -> Fault entry 11
58/4 -> Fault entry 12
Measured value block 70:
70/1 -> Gearbox section 1 specified pressure
70/2 -> Gearbox section 1 actual pressure
70/3 -> Gearbox section 1 actual pressure value
Measured value block 71:
71/1 -> Gearbox section 1 valve specified current
71/2 -> Gearbox section 1 valve actual current
71/3 -> Gearbox section 1 valve actual current value
71/4 -> Gearbox section 1 valve duty cycle
Measured value block 75:
75/1 -> Gearbox section 2 specified pressure
75/2 -> Gearbox section 2 actual pressure
75/3 -> Gearbox section 2 actual pressure value
Measured value block 76:
76/1 -> Gearbox section 2 valve specified current
76/2 -> Gearbox section 2 valve actual current
76/3 -> Gearbox section 2 valve actual current value
76/4 -> Gearbox section 2 valve duty cycle
Measured value block 80:
80/1 -> Control unit identification
Measured value block 81:
81/1 -> Control unit identification
Measured value block 82:
82/1 -> Control unit identification
Measured value block 83:
83/1 -> Mechatronics identification
Measured value block 90:
90/1 -> Clutch 1 specified torque
90/2 -> Clutch 1 actual torque
Measured value block 91:
91/1 -> G617 Clutch position sender 1
91/2 -> G617 Clutch position sender 1
91/3 -> Clutch 1 value 1
91/4 -> Clutch 1 value 2
Measured value block 92:
92/1 -> N435 Valve 3 in gearbox section 1
92/2 -> N435 Valve 3 in gearbox section 1
92/3 -> N435 Valve 3 in gearbox section 1
92/4 -> N435 Valve 3 in gearbox section 1
Measured value block 93:
93/1 -> N435 Valve 3 in gearbox section 1
Measured value block 95:
95/1 -> Clutch 1 adaption
95/2 -> Clutch 1 adaption
95/3 -> Clutch 1 adaption
95/4 -> Clutch 1 adaption
Measured value block 96:
96/1 -> Clutch 1 adaption
96/2 -> Clutch 1 adaption
96/3 -> Clutch 1 adaption
96/4 -> Clutch 1 adaption
Measured value block 97:

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97/1 -> Clutch 1 adaption
97/2 -> Clutch 1 adaption
97/4 -> Clutch 1 adaption
Measured value block 98:
98/1 -> Clutch 1
98/2 -> Clutch 1
98/3 -> Clutch 1
Measured value block 99:
99/1 -> Clutch 1
99/2 -> Clutch 1
99/3 -> Clutch 1
99/4 -> Clutch 1
Measured value block 109:
109/1 -> Drive strategy
109/2 -> Drive strategy
109/3 -> Drive strategy
109/4 -> Drive strategy
Measured value block 111:
110/1 -> Clutch 2 specified torque
110/2 -> Clutch 2 actual torque
Measured value block 1:
111/1 -> G618 Clutch position sender 2
111/2 -> G618 Clutch position sender 2
111/3 -> Clutch 2 value 1
111/4 -> Clutch 2 value 2
Measured value block 112:
112/1 -> N439 Valve 3 in gearbox section 2
112/2 -> N439 Valve 3 in gearbox section 2
Measured value block 125:
125/1 -> Bus engine
125/2 -> Bus ABS
125/3 -> Bus dash
125/4 -> Bus selector lever
Measured value block 126:
126/1 -> Bus gateway
126/2 -> Bus steering
126/3 -> Bus steering angle
126/4 -> Bus EPB
Measured value block 127:
127/1 -> Bus ACC

[generalles]

У тебя новерное возможны следующие проблемы. Сгорел мехатрон. Вышел из строя насос гидравлики. Проверь давление по 30 каналу.